Comments on: I hate the term “Natural linking” by Adam Sorensen http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/ SEO, Search engine optimization Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:01:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Cameron Olthuis http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-40 Cameron Olthuis Thu, 08 Dec 2005 01:32:59 +0000 http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-40 <a href="http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/002925.html" rel="nofollow">straight from the horses mouth</a> straight from the horses mouth

]]> By: Administrator http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-37 Administrator Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:34:21 +0000 http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-37 Let me make something perfectly clear. I completely agree with you that one way links, that look natural, are going to help you more in the search engines. But my point is this: If you're doing SEO, link building or whatever, how can you call a one way link, with your high-traffic keywords in the anchor, that you worked toward getting, natural? It didn't happen naturally at all. Most <em>real</em> natural links will have the name of the company in the link. You and I both know that this will not help the company rank for high-traffic keyword phrases, it'll just help them rank well for their company name. So, "natural link building" - as the SEO community calls it - is not <em>real</em> natural link building. SEOs want links with keywords in them not company names. Let me make something perfectly clear. I completely agree with you that one way links, that look natural, are going to help you more in the search engines. But my point is this: If you’re doing SEO, link building or whatever, how can you call a one way link, with your high-traffic keywords in the anchor, that you worked toward getting, natural? It didn’t happen naturally at all.

Most real natural links will have the name of the company in the link. You and I both know that this will not help the company rank for high-traffic keyword phrases, it’ll just help them rank well for their company name.

So, “natural link building” - as the SEO community calls it - is not real natural link building. SEOs want links with keywords in them not company names.

]]> By: Cameron Olthuis http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-36 Cameron Olthuis Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:22:01 +0000 http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-36 What I mean by "natural link" is that you're not emailing and asking for links, paying for links, or joining a recip link club. Doesn't it make sense to you that a search engine would place more importance on a natural link? I know if I'm visiting a site I would rather follow a natural link then a recip or paid link. Just knowing that someone is linking without getting anything in return tells me there is something of value behind that link. The job of an seo isn't simply to build links, there's specialty companies for that. SEO is much much more then just link building. I'm sure you'd agree wouldn't you? In this entry here http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/11/03/reciprocal-linking-alive-and-well/ You stated: "Reciprocal trading doesn’t have as much weight as one way links, but it still has weight. Reciprocal links are far easier to come by than one way links too. " So which is it? Are one way links better or not? And is something that's harder to work for (one way links) usually worth more? It's like having something of value that came from hard work, it's going to be treated much better than something that came easily. If you still don't agree then lets agree to disagree. What I mean by “natural link” is that you’re not emailing and asking for links, paying for links, or joining a recip link club.

Doesn’t it make sense to you that a search engine would place more importance on a natural link? I know if I’m visiting a site I would rather follow a natural link then a recip or paid link. Just knowing that someone is linking without getting anything in return tells me there is something of value behind that link.

The job of an seo isn’t simply to build links, there’s specialty companies for that. SEO is much much more then just link building. I’m sure you’d agree wouldn’t you?

In this entry here http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/11/03/reciprocal-linking-alive-and-well/

You stated:

“Reciprocal trading doesn’t have as much weight as one way links, but it still has weight. Reciprocal links are far easier to come by than one way links too. ”

So which is it? Are one way links better or not? And is something that’s harder to work for (one way links) usually worth more?

It’s like having something of value that came from hard work, it’s going to be treated much better than something that came easily.

If you still don’t agree then lets agree to disagree.

]]> By: Administrator http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-35 Administrator Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:30:59 +0000 http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-35 Cameron, I appreciate your comments. So are you defining "natural linking" as sites that link to you without any effort on your part? If so, why hire an SEO? Cameron,
I appreciate your comments. So are you defining “natural linking” as sites that link to you without any effort on your part? If so, why hire an SEO?

]]> By: Cameron Olthuis http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-34 Cameron Olthuis Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:19:17 +0000 http://www.lavaball.com/design_development_tips/2005/12/06/79/#comment-34 I completely disagree with you. Natural linking basically just means you get a link without asking for it. It's just common sense that the search engines will place more importance on such a link. If you can gets links without asking for them that tells the search engines that your site obviously has something of importance, if you just trade links it doesn't mean anything more than you trying to trick the search engines. If you think your visitors want to see a link page with a bunch of random sites you're mistaken. They want value, if linking to another site provides them value you should do so. No one is saying you have to help your competition. You better do your homework on this issue. There is such a thing as natural linking and it does help your rankings. I completely disagree with you. Natural linking basically just means you get a link without asking for it. It’s just common sense that the search engines will place more importance on such a link. If you can gets links without asking for them that tells the search engines that your site obviously has something of importance, if you just trade links it doesn’t mean anything more than you trying to trick the search engines.

If you think your visitors want to see a link page with a bunch of random sites you’re mistaken. They want value, if linking to another site provides them value you should do so. No one is saying you have to help your competition.

You better do your homework on this issue. There is such a thing as natural linking and it does help your rankings.

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